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Onboarding Developers through Better Documentation
@ K8s Contributor Summit, 12/5
Note Taker: Jared Bhatti (jaredbhatti), Andrew Chen (chenopis), Solly Ross (directxman12)
Goal
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Understand how we’re currently onboarding developers now
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Understand the "rough edges" of the onboarding experience for new users
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Understand how we can better target the needs of our audience
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Understand if our contributor process will meet the documentation needs.
Note: the focus is on documentation, so we won’t be able to act on suggestions outside of that (but we will consider them!).
Initial thoughts
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Where we were at the beginning of the 2017: (@1.4)
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Where we are now: (@ 1.8)
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We are tied into the launch process
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We have analytics on our docs
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We have a full time writer and sig docs contrib group
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Everything is in templates, we have a style guide
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Better infrastructure (netlify)
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Meeting Notes
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Introductions
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Jared: SIG docs maintainer
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Andrew: SIG docs maintainer, techwriter
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Radika: 1.8 release team, SIG docs member
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Phil Wittrock: interested b/c it determines how system is used
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??
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Paul Morie: interested b/c hit challenges that could be avoided with better dev docs (patterns used in Kube can’t be easily found on internet)
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Nikita: work on CRDs
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??: docs are a good intro to core Kube codebase
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Michael Rubin
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??: dashboard contributor, onboarding is a key part of the dashboard experience
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Steve Wong: storage SIG, on-prem SIG, trying to get head around on-prem, docs geared towards cloud
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Solly Ross (@directxman12): want to avoid changes to fiddly bits confusing people
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Morgan Bauer: had issues with people changing fundamental bits out from under other contributors
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Sahdev Zala: docs are important for new contributors, first place they look, contribex
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Brad Topol: like explaining stuff, kube conformance WG
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Tomas: working on side project, looking for inspiration on docs for that
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Garrett: ContribEx, looking to reduce the question "how do I get started"
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Stefan (@sttts): where do we push docs changes to mechanics
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Josh Berkus: ContribEx
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contributor docs
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Avoid the process for finding which of the 49 people have the right info 6 months after it merges
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Have contributor docs which merge with "internal features" (e.g. API registration changes)
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Have a flag for internal release notes, bot which checks
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Issue: opinion: we don’t want to write dev docs because they’ll change
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Issue is it’s hard to capture every little thing
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Good start is documentation on generalities (80%/20%): e.g building an API server
- Started out with no docs on how to do that (has gotten better)
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Big concepts don’t change a lot, describe those
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Ask questions:
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What are the big nouns
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What are the big verbs for those nouns
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How are the nouns relate
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Don’t fall into trap of (for example) tracepoints (accidentally creating a lot of small little fiddly points)
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Need a way for "heads up this is changing". If you have questions, ask these specific people.
- Very SIG dependent (some do meetings, others mailing-list focused, some have a low bus number)
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How is your SIG interacting with docs
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Service Catalog
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In docs folder
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How do we interact with docs
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Depends on moving into kubernetes org
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Issue: lots of docs with bits and pieces
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Not organized into "as a developer, you’re interested in these links"
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Spend a week, come up with a ToC
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Many docs in different repos
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Should have guidelines on where to put things
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Should have templates for how to write different types of docs
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Issue: wrong abstraction layers are exposed
- Documenting a complex system has less payoff than simplifying
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Issue: extending Kube blurs the line between contributor and user
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Put more docs into the same place
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"Crafting User Journeys": user stories buckets: Customer User Journeys (project)
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Need champion for different personas
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Issue: people (e.g. Storage SIG) want to write docs, but they don’t know where to start
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Both contributors and users, and both (plugin writing, for example, or how to provision storage securely)
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Templates/guidelines mentioned above may be helpful
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Talk to SIG docs (SIG docs wants to try and send delegates to SIG, but for now, come to meetings)
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Question: should there even be a split between user and contributor docs?
- No, but we have historically (didn’t used to have person-power to implement it)
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Onboarding docs push for 2018
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Point people from moment one to start understanding how to contribute (design patterns, etc)
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How do we organize, make things findable
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How do we organize allowing people to contribute right now
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Main site is all user docs right now
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Starting to look at auto-import docs
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User journeys project (above)
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Testing right now
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Lots of people writing blog posts
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Any way to aggregate to some of that?
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Wow to avoid "this doesn’t work anymore"?
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There is a Kubernetes blog, being migrated under k8s.io
- People can contribute to the blog for ephemeral stuff
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We guarantee that k8s.io stuff is updated
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For blogs, put a "sell-by date"
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Request: join dashboard conversation
- How do we link from dashboard to docs and vice-versa
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Question: where do the docs of tools like kops fit in
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More broadly hits on Kubernetes "kernel" vs wrapper projects
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Right now, it’s checked into repo, so it should have docs on the main site
- Documentation is endorsing, at bit
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(but why is kops checked into the repo as opposed to other installers)
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Have a easy way for projects (incubator and main org) to have their own docs sub-sites (e.g. gh-pages-style for the Kubernetes sites)
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Follow-Ups
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Suggestion: Presentation on how to structure site, write docs, user studies done, etc (why are Kube docs the way they are)
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"I want to get started fast"
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"I want to build the next thing that gives me value" (task-driven)
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"Something broke, where’s the reference docs" (troubleshooting)
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Projects In Development
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Customer User Journeys (project)
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Revamp of docs landing page
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Building out a glossary (project)
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More doc sprints (like this one)
Continue participating!
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Content exists under Kubernetes/website (feel free to fix an issue by creating a PR)
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Join the kubernetes SIG Docs group
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Attend the next Kubernetes docs community meeting (Tuesdays @ 10:30am, PST)
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And join the kubernetes sig-docs slack channel (kubernetes.slack.com #sig-docs)